Tyres - Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta

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Came across some interesting tyres the other day that seem very impressive - Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta
These have been given some very high praise by impreza drivers and EVO mag in a recent tyre test.

JDM STIs come with RE070s as standard but many UK ppl have been swapping to these and have been impressed by the turn in and performance of the tyres, they also topped some of the test tables in EVO but ultimately they came second to the Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymetrics.

Then there's the price - £94.20 each! :shock: 8)
http://ssl.delti.com/cgi-bin/details.pl?ID=froogle&typ=R-132867&Country=UK

The Car:
VW Golf GTI MK5

The Track:
Bridgestone European Proving Ground - Rome

Tyre Size:
225/45 R17 Y

Anyways very quick summary:


Tyres tested:
1. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A
2. Continental Contisport Contact 3
3. Dunlop Sport Maxx
4. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric
5. Kumho Ecsta STP KU31
6. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2
7. Pirelli PZERO Nero
8. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA
9. Yokohama S.DRIVE

Wet Handling:

Lap Times:
1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 99.05%
3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 98.38%

Lateral G:
1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 97.85%
3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 97.34%

Subjective:

1. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 100%
2. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 96.15%
3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 94.23%

Aqua-Planing:

Straight Line:

1. Dunlop Sport Maxx - 100%
2. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 98.85%
3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 97.01%

Cornering:

1. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 100%
2. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 83.37%
3. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 80.09%

Braking:

Wet Braking

1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 98.19%
3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 97.44%

Dry Braking - Very little to choose between top and bottom [7% difference]

1. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 100%
2. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 99.08%
3. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 98.94%

Best at the Pumps:

Resistance (rolling):

1. Yokohama S.DRIVE - 100%
2. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 97.88%
3. Kumho Ecsta STP KU31 - 92.72%

Dry Handling:

Lap Times:

1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 99.79%
3. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 99.18%

Lateral G:

1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 97.19%
3. Bridgestone Potenza RE050-A - 96.18%

Subjective:

1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 100%
2. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 95.55%
3. Pirelli PZERO Nero - 93.33%

Road Route:

Subjective:

1. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 100%
2. Dunlop Sport Maxx - 92.50%
3. Michelin Pilot Sport 2 PS2 - 90.50%

OVERALL RESULTS:

1. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assymmetric - 96.4

A decisive win for the new Goodyear, with more table-topping performances than any other tyre. Better still, those wins came in both the wet and the dry objective test, and subjectively it was voted best tyre on the dry handling course.

2. Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA - 95.3

3. Continental Contisport Contact 3 - 93.5
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I would very tempted to try these when the time comes, equally the Assymmetrics sound very good (as mentioned by someone else on here)
 
Just picked up a set of 4 for £420 Eagle F1 Asymmetrics, will post a review in a few days when I've had a chance to scrub them.
 
Had a decent drive on the new F1s, very good indeed. The walls are more flexible than the 070s and as such the general ride is more comfortable. The wet performance is really very good and if it stops being wet for more than a day or so I'll get a shot in the dry. Not surprisingly the F1s are a good alternative to the 070s better in the wet, perhaps not quite as good in the dry but it's always going to be a compromise and given that my FD2 is used daily it's a better all round tyre than the 070s. So I'll keep the 070s for the track :D
 
Sounds promising. I know the assymetrics are different, but I always rated the GSD3s on my ATR. I'd be tempted to do the same if it were not for the headache of getting the tyres changed so I could use my RE070s on track. I cooked my GSD3s and suffered massive understeer after numerous laps
 
wanna sell your old ones :twisted:

If I can source RE070s cheap I will be stock piling them in my garage
 
I will have 8 tyres and rims at the end of the month, which i will spilt if anyone needs one. :)
 
Livvy":ozbibeud said:
I will have 8 tyres and rims at the end of the month, which i will spilt if anyone needs one. :)
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Is that the FD2 rims with REO70's - I def be interested in one.
 
Will let you know when they arrive. They are new, delivery milage only. :)

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Just had a per of these put on as one of my RE070 had a screw in it :evil: :crybaby:

The tyre fitters had a right job getting the RE070s off almost took them about 2hr, there may have been extra pressure though as I requested that they wouldn't scrape the rims :clap:

The tread pattern on the Sessanta's look pretty mean but there is not much sidewall rim protection compared to the RE070's so I better watch those kerbs. First drive the tyres felt very odd, and thought well they are new let them scrub in, so went to get the pressures checked and tyre fitters had pumped the rears upto 2.5bar, so took them down to 1.8bar and they feel much better.

Off on a trackday tomorrow so will feed back with my findings.
 
Keep us posted. As you can tell from my post I favour them and they came out good in the evo tests but they are over looked by most ppl. They could easily be hidden gems 8)
 
sounds very promising....need some new tyres cos my re070s need replacing!!!

dont really want to fork out £200 a tyre so lets hope these r good.

if not, its time to save up for a set of 070s :-(
 
It might be just a weight thing, but keep an eye on them. In the Mercedes world over the last 12 months there's been several cases of sidewall delamination.
 
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Yes sorry, running 2 of these on the front now after scrubbing them in at Rockingham on the Rears :-D I felt the rear end was a little twitchy when running these on track at the rear and if provoked would allow the back end to step out but I imagine that would have been the same with the RE070's. They did start to fall apart and I thought they may have been finished by the end of the day lol. But when I got on the road again they cleaned up fine and just look like a normal tyre now.

They are very good tyres in the wet and get much more traction than the RE070's and still very positive feedback on turn in. The side walls aren't as stiff as the RE070's (obviously) but they still inspire confidence. The ride seems a little better on these and tram lining isn't as bad even though they have a crazy tread pattern.

The only down side is that they don't have anywhere near the sidewall rim protection for your wheels compared to the RE070 so stay even further away from the kerbs, other than that they are a great quality tyre for a bargain price. I paid just over £100 inc vat, fitted and balanced per tyre.
 
Thanks for that. I wonder if the handling characteristics are due to running with RE070s on the front when at Rockingham? You'd have a lot more grip at the front so it would make sense for the rear to break early when pushed. I'll be changing all 4 which should help to balance it back up & the price is fantastic 8)
 
You could be right plus the Vredestein's were only put on the day before Rockingham so were scrubbing in to. I imagine as a full set they will feel very balanced.
 
I've just put some of these on a set of uk type r wheels for winter, seem great. definatley better in the wet. :-D
 
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